Central Council of Church Bell Ringers

Minutes of the Third Session of the 32nd Council (89th Annual Meeting) held in the Grammar School, Reigate, on Tuesday 27th May 1986


Life Members: E. A. Barnett, W. B. Cartwright, Miss D. E. Colgate, F. E. Collins, P. A. Corby, J. Freeman and F. W. Perrens.
Honorary Members: A. E. M. Bagworth, Mrs. O. D. Barnett, A. P. S. Berry, H. Chant, M. J. Church, R. J. Cooles, W. H. Dobbie, A. J. Frost, D. E. House, C. K. Lewis, J. R. Mayne, M. H. D. O’Callaghan, Miss J. Sanderson, M. C. W. Sherwood, R. B. Smith, D. G. Thorne, B. D. Threlfall, W. H. Viggers, Mrs. M. J. Wilkinson and Mrs. M. A. Wratten.
Ancient Society of College Youths: W. T. Cook, R. C. Kippin, A. N. Stubbs, A. W. R. Wilby.
Australia & New Zealand Assn: R. F. Eccles.
Bath & Wells Dio. Assn: D. J. Buckley, M. J. Freeman, G. W. Massey, E. Naylor.
Bedfordshire Assn: P. J. S. Albon, K. Lewin, A. H. Smith.
Beverley & Dist. Society: P. Church.
Cambridge Univ. Guild: P. L. H. Brooke, S. C. Walters.
Carlisle Dio. Guild: D. T. Sim.
Chester Dio. Guild: P. Dyson, C. C. Roberts, M. Thomson.
Coventry Dio. Guild: P. Border, H. M. Windsor, Mrs. B. Winter.
Derby Dio. Assn: G. A. Halls, D. Hird, Mrs. J. E. Orchard.
Devonshire Guild: F. D. Mack, M. E. C. Mears, D. J. Roberts, Revd. L. Yeo.
Durham & Newcastle Dio. Assn: J. Atkinson, N. A. Johnson, Mrs. B. M. Wheeler.
Durham Univ. Society: Revd P. Newing.
E. Derbyshire & W. Notts. Assn: A. Dempster.
E. Grinstead & Dist. Guild: A. N. Brock.
Ely Dio. Assn: B. C. Bass, G. E. Bonham, Miss L. H. M. Boyle, S. S. Meyer.
Essex Assn: J. Armstrong, D. Sloman, O. C. R. Webster.
Gloucester & Bristol Dio. Assn: P. H. Allen, B. Bladon, J. R. Taylor, C. A. Wratten.
Guildford Dio. Guild: W. J. Couperthwaite, D. E. Parsons, J. R. Pratt, C. H. Rogers.
Hereford Dio. Guild: N. R. Mattingley, M. V. Powell, R. G. Powell, A. T. Wingate.
Hertford County Assn: A. F. Alldrick, R. Baldwin, G. Dodds, B. C. Watson.
Irish Assn: A. F. Bogan, F. E. Dukes, W. A. Patterson.
Kent County Assn: D. J. Carr, M. J. Lodwick, D. C. Manger, D. H. Niblett.
Ladies’ Guild: Miss F. Cannon, Mrs. C. Higby, Mrs. P. Watson.
Lancashire Assn: C. Crossthwaite, D. R. Jones, J. Kershaw, F. Reynolds.
Leeds Univ. Society: C. Forster.
Leicester Dio. Guild: B. L. Burrows, A. Cattell, S. J. Franklin, J. M. Jelley.
Lichfield Archd. Society: J. F. Mulvey, S. G. Pick, C. M. Smith.
Lincoln Dio. Guild: G. E. Feirn, D. A. Frith, J. L. Millhouse, L. Townsend.
Liverpool Univ. Society: J. K. Foot.
Llandaff & Monmouth Dio. Assn: Revd. J. C. Baldwin, P. S. Bennett, D. C. Brookes.
London County Assn: H. W. Rogers, Mrs. O. L. Rogers, J. T. Shepard, M. J. Uphill.
Manchester Univ. Guild: D. R. Pettifor.
Middlesex County Assn. & London Dio. Guild: F. T. Blagrove, T. J. Lock, D. W. Struckett.
Midland Counties Guild: M. Quimby.
N. American Guild: W. H. Jackson, Mrs. M. B. Winter.
N. Staffordshire Assn: N. G. Sharp.
N. Wales Assn: J. K. R. Ellis, P. F. T. Smith.
Norwich Dio. Assn: F. C. J. Arnold, H. J. Charles, J. R. Smith.
Oxford Dio. Guild: W. Butler, H. W. Egglestone, R. H. Newton, T. G. Pett.
Oxford Society: B. J. Stone.
Peterborough Dio. Guild: E. Billings, C. J. Groome, D. J. Jones, Revd. E. G. Orland.
Railwaymen’s Guild: T. Skilton.
Soc. of Royal Cumberland Youths: J. S. Barnes, I. H. Oram, D. E. Sibson, P. M. Wilkinson.
St. Martin’s Guild: J. A. Anderson, R. W. Pipe.
Salisbury Dio. Guild: T. F. Collins, E. J. Hitchins, P. L. J. Matthews, R. G. W. Robertson.
Scottish Assn: N. E. Booth.
Soc. of Sherwood Youths: P. L. R. Hayward.
Shropshire Assn: F. M. Mitchell.
Southwell Dio. Guild: G. A. Dawson, R. G. Fanthorpe, R. B. Mills, B. A. Richards.
Suffolk Guild: T. N. J. Bailey, S. D. Pettman, Revd L. R. Pizzey, A. R. Smith.
Surrey Assn: J. D. Cheesman, S. J. Coleman, E. G. H. Godfrey, R. A. Grant.
Sussex County Assn: A. R. Baldock, P. T. Hurcombe, D. D. Smith, P. M. Wills.
Swansea & Brecon Dio. Guild: A. R. Lewis.
Truro Dio. Guild: W. C. Boucher, Mrs. M. P. Byrne, R. J. Perry.
Universities Assn: Revd. M. C. C. Melville.
Univ. of Bristol Society: Mrs. A. Newing.
Univ. of London Society: P. J. Sanderson.
Winchester & Portsmouth Dio. Guild: R. Cater, Mrs. G. W. Davis, D. C. Jackson, A. P. Smith.
Worcestershire & Dists. Assn: A. D. Evans, M. D. Fellows, R. G. Morris, R. K. Williams.
Yorkshire Assn: D. W. Beard, R. J. Johnston, W. F. Moreton, D. E. Potter.

The Devon Association, National Police Guild and Oxford University Society were not represented.

Report as to membership:

The Hon. Secretary (Mr. C. A. Wratten) reported that 66 societies were affiliated, with 175 representative members on the Council, an increase of one since 1985 (representing the Durham & Newcastle Diocesan Association). There were nine Life and 24 Honorary Members.

Apologies for absence:

Apologies for absence had been received from Messrs. E. C. Shepherd and A. G. G. Thurlow (Life), D. Hughes, P. D. Sotheran, R. F. B. Speed and J. M. Tyler (Honorary) and N. Brock, P. M. J. Gray, B. Harris, F. B. Lufkin, D. Martin, P. D. Niblett, B. Peachey and P. J. Tremain (representative members).

Welcome to new members:

The President (Mr. P. A. Corby) welcomed Mrs. J. E. Orchard and Mrs. B. M. Wheeler and Messrs. P. J. S. Albon, A. F. Alldrick, J. A. Anderson, A. F. Bogan and D. J. Roberts.

Loss of members through death:

Members stood in silence as the President read the names of those who had died since the previous meeting: B. C. Ashford (Worcester & Districts, 1945-72), J. T. Dunwoody (Irish, since 1948), F. E. Hawthorne (Cumberland Youths, 1950-66) and A. D. Barker (London CA, 1924-36; Oxford DG, 1936-66; London CA, 1966-69).

Election of Life Member:

C. A. Wratten was elected a Life Member of the Council on the proposition of Mr. E. A. Barnett, seconded by Dr. Angela Newing.

Election of Honorary Members:

Mrs. O. D. Barnett, H. Chant, R. J. Cooles, D. E. House, C. K. Lewis, J. R. Mayne, M. H. D. O’Callaghan and Preb. J. G. M. Scott were individually elected Honorary members.

Minutes of the previous meeting:
(RW 28th February 1986)

Adopted on the proposition of the Hon. Secretary, seconded by C. J. Groome, subject to the amendment of the reference to the Towers & Belfries “committee’s earlier pamphlet” to read “the sub-committee’s earlier report”.

Report of the Hon. Secretary:
(RW 27th June 1986)

Adopted on the proposition of the Hon. Secretary, seconded by F. E. Dukes, who thanked Mr. and Mrs. Wratten for their work on behalf of the Council.

Balance Sheet and Accounts:
(RW 27th June 1986)

Adopted on the proposition of C. A. Wratten, seconded by F. E. Dukes.


(a) On behalf of the Administrative Committee, C. A. Wratten proposed and R. J. Cooles seconded the following change to the Council’s Rules:

“that in Rule 13(iv) the word ‘closed’ be substituted for ‘accepted’ in the first sentence.”

The motion was passed.

(b) W. J. Couperthwaite proposed and C. H. Rogers seconded,

“That the Records Committee be asked to examine the Council’s Decisions relating to the naming of new methods, in particular those rung in multi-method peals and to produce a report for consideration by the Council.” After the proposer and seconder had agreed to add the words “at next year’s meeting” at the end, the motion was passed.

(c) On behalf of the Methods Committee A. P. Smith proposed and C. K. Lewis seconded,

“that Decision (E) D.5 be amended as follows:

‘The band that first rings a peal of a new method or an extent in the case of Doubles or Minor, or includes it in a multi-method peal, shall name the method and publish it in The Ringing World, subject to (E) D.4 above, and to the power of the Council to change the name or leave it unnamed if it considers it necessary’.”

The motion was passed.

(d) On behalf of the Methods Committee A. P. Smith proposed and M. C. W. Sherwood seconded,

“That Decision (D) B be amended to read:

‘B. Particular conditions required for peals on different numbers of bells.

  1. Peals of Minimus, Doubles, Minor and Triples shall be rung on four, five, six and seven bells respectively, or on five, six, seven and eight bells with the tenor as cover and shall consist of at least 5040 changes rung in any combination of the following, each starting from rounds:

    (a) True and complete extents.

    (b) Round blocks of two or more extents in which each of the different rows occurs the same number of times.

  2. Peals of Major, Caters, Royal, etc. shall be rung on eight, nine, ten, etc. bells respectively, or on nine, ten, eleven, etc. bells with the tenor as cover and shall consist of at least 5000 true changes.

  3. Peals of “Minimus and Doubles”, “Doubles and Minor”, and “Minor and Triples” shall be rung on five, six and seven bells respectively, with the tenor as cover when ringing the lower stage and shall consist of at least 5040 changes rung in any combination of round blocks as permitted in 1. above.

  4. Peals of “Triples and Major”, “Major and Caters”, “Caters and Royal”, etc. shall be rung on eight, nine, ten, etc. bells respectively, with the tenor as cover when ringing the lower stage and shall consist of at least 5000 true changes.’”

After an amendment, proposed by P. J. Sanderson and seconded by R. J. Johnston, that the words “Peals of Minimus shall only be rung on tower bells” had been agreed, the motion, thus amended, was passed.

Report of the Trustee of the Rolls of Honour:
(RW 27th June 1986)

Adopted on the proposition of W. T. Cook, seconded by W. A. Patterson.

Report of the Trustees of the Carter Ringing Machine:
(RW 27th June 1986)

Adopted on the proposition of A. E. Bagworth, seconded by W. H. Dobbie.

Committee Reports

(All Committee Reports were published in The Ringing World of 27th June 1986).


Adopted on the proposition of C. A. Wratten, seconded by M. J. Church.

Towers and Belfries:

Adopted on the proposition of B. D. Threlfall, seconded by A. J. Frost. Mr. Threlfall said that the Committee’s new Chairman was Mr. J. R. Taylor and was himself thanked by the President for his work for the Council.

Bell Restoration Funds:

Adopted on the proposition of J. S. Barnes, seconded by G. A. Halls.

Redundant Bells:

Adopted on the proposition of Mrs. M. J. Wilkinson, seconded by E. A. Barnett.

Peals Analysis:

Adopted on the proposition of C. H. Rogers, seconded by D. A. Frith, the President having confirmed that adoption included recognition of three peals rung on the seven bells at Selston, Notts, during 1985 and the rejection of a peal of Caters at Matlock and one of Real Stedman Minimus.


Adopted on the proposition of D. E. Sibson, seconded by J. R. Mayne.


Adopted on the proposition of A. P. Smith, seconded by M. C. W. Sherwood.

Public Relations:

Adopted on the proposition of A. W. R. Wilby, seconded by D. Potter, a number of members however deploring the committee’s choice of Holy Saturday for a Public Relations conference.


Adopted on the proposition of R. Cater, seconded by W. Butler. Mrs. G. Davis thanked the Council for its support of the Graded Ringing Assessments scheme over the past five years.

Peal Compositions:

Adopted on the proposition of R. W. Pipe, seconded by R. C. Kippin. Mr. Pipe reported that he was standing down as the Committee’s Chairman and would be replaced by Mr. Kippin.

Computer Co-ordination:

Adopted on the proposition of T. G. Pett, seconded by J. R. Taylor. There was an inconclusive discussion of the need or otherwise for ringing societies using computers for administrative purposes to register under the Data Protection Act, during the course of which Mr. W. B. Cartwright offered to discuss the legal aspects with Mr. R. J. Cooles and perhaps take Counsel’s opinion.


Adopted on the proposition of T. J. Lock, seconded by G. A. Dawson. Mr. I. H. Oram said he would discuss with Mr. Lock means of making copies of the Committee’s biography sheets.


Adopted on the proposition of W. T. Cook, seconded by P. M. Wilkinson.


Adopted on the proposition of C. J. Groome, seconded by J. R. Taylor.

Rescue Fund for Redundant Bells:

Adopted on the proposition of R. J. Cooles, seconded by M. H. D. O’Callaghan.

Future Meetings:

After the President had reminded members that the 1987 meeting would be held in Coventry and the 1988 one in the Carlisle Diocesan Guild’s area, an invitation from the St. Martin’s Guild for the Council to hold its 1989 meeting in Birmingham was gratefully accepted.

It was noted that invitations had been received for 1990 (from the Bath & Wells Diocesan Association), 1991 (College Youths) and 1999 (Lincoln District Guild).

Votes of thanks:

On behalf of the Council the President thanked the officers and members of the Surrey Association, the Archdeacon, Rector and Mayor and Mayoress of Reigate, the authorities at Reigate Grammar School, incumbents and ringers who had contributed to the success and enjoyment of the meeting.

Wholly represented54144-
Partly represented7197
Not represented3-5

Life members72
Honorary members204


The Ringing World, January 23, 1987, pages 91 to 92, corrections February 19, 1988, page 190

(Archivist’s note: also absent were J. Hine and R. O. Wright (Devon Assn.), S. F. High (Norwich Dio. Assn.) and D. C. Brown (Oxford Univ. Society))

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